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		<title>In the nation&#8217;s interests</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 07:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Martin Turner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nick Clegg has done what to some was unthinkable and to others inevitable, by forming the first coalition in a generation. In truth, the collapse of the talks with Labour meant this was the only workable choice in the nation's interests.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have received howls of protest over the last few days from Lib Dem members, people who voted Lib Dem but usually vote <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a>, and people who have never voted Lib Dem and never intend to. Some have demanded that Nick  Clegg immediately fall into line behind Cameron and stop negotiating for &#8216;party advantage&#8217;. Some have insisted that for Clegg to co-ally would be a betrayal of all that is most sacred. Some have told me that talking to <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> was equivalent to state treachery, and Clegg can never be trusted again. By email, phone, Facebook, txt, tweet and even visits to my door, and, bizarrest of all, an email sent from Australia by someone I had never heard of directed to all Lib Dem candidates who contested the <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/election/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with election">election</a>, it&#8217;s been made clear to me that whatever <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/nick-clegg/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Nick Clegg">Nick Clegg</a> did, not everyone would be happy.</p>
<p>I have to confess I&#8217;ve struggled to get quite as emotionally caught up in this as some people. Those of us who stand for parliament do so with an underlying notion of public service. Of course we want our party to win. And there is always personal ambition: we want to be in there, making the decisions, with our fingers on the turning of the world. But nobody would go through the five weeks of gruelling punishment, preceded by four years of selection and campaigning, preceded in turn by how ever many years of becoming involved and going through a candidate approval process, unless there was more than simply the desire for our team to win.</p>
<p><a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/nick-clegg/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Nick Clegg">Nick Clegg</a> was always honour-bound to make his decision in the nation&#8217;s best interests. Anything less would have simply ruled him unfit to be a party leader. </p>
<p>The only question was: what decision would be in the nation&#8217;s best interests?</p>
<p>I will put my cards on the table: after last year&#8217;s <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/expenses/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with expenses">expenses</a> debacle, and this year&#8217;s scandal over the Ashcroft million, electoral reform seems to me to be one of the nation&#8217;s most important and pressing concerns. The result of the General <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/election/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with election">Election</a> &#8212; no clear majority in parliament, nothing like a majority in the popular vote (Tories polled only 12% more than Lib Dems, lest we forget, but gained more than five times as many seats) &#8212; demonstrates very clearly that the public are not satisfied.</p>
<p>But, although pressing, electoral reform is not <em>the</em> most pressing concern. I do not accept the view of the scaremongerers that Britain is about to go the way of Greece. <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/david-cameron/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with David Cameron">David Cameron</a> has already had to eat his words that a hung parliament would spell economic disaster. But it is true that the economy is right at the top of the list of things that need to be fixed now, and fixed right.</p>
<p>A coalition with <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> was always a long-shot, and Clegg was right to honour his <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/election/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with election">election</a> pledge and talk first to the party with the most votes. But he was also right to at least attempt a deal with <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a>. This was not treachery, as some of the Tory <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/press/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with press">press</a> and some of my own correspondents have suggested, but a necessary and entirely <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/honourable/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with honourable">honourable</a> step: Clegg was duty bound to explore both feasible possibilities as he decided for the United Kingdom who should be the next prime minister.</p>
<p>For the record, I think it would have been possible to do it. (I do not say that it would have necessarily been the best thing, but I do say that it would have been possible). Those who argued that this was undemocratic forget the very shaky ground on which they stand: <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> and the Lib Dems between them gained more than 50% of the popular vote, although, because of our misrepresentative system, this was not quite 50% of the seats in parliament. <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> certainly seemed ready to promise a much swifter, much surer route to electoral reform. And <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/gordon-brown/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Gordon Brown">Gordon Brown</a> nobly was willing to accept <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/nick-clegg/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Nick Clegg">Nick Clegg</a>&#8217;s other <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/election/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with election">election</a> promise &#8212; that, whatever happened, Brown would not continue as Prime Minister. </p>
<p>But it was <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> MPs themselves who made it quite clear that they had no real interest in staying in government. From the point that (then, still) government ministers went on the record in public stating this, the chances of a deal with <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> were over.</p>
<p>Many Lib Dem voters find the coalition with the Conservatives distasteful. I personally remained on good terms with all the candidates in the <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/stratford/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Stratford">Stratford</a> <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/election/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with election">election</a>, except for the <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/bnp/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with BNP">BNP</a> who never attended any of the debates and with whom I never spoke. But there have been instances where Tory attacks were brutal and unfounded. And we have endured the jeers and scorn of the Tory <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/press/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with press">press</a> barons for more than a generation.</p>
<p>It is certainly true that very few will have voted Lib Dem with the aim of putting <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/david-cameron/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with David Cameron">David Cameron</a> in government.</p>
<p>But <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/nick-clegg/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Nick Clegg">Nick Clegg</a> still had to put the nation&#8217;s interest ahead of his own. The choice between a <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/conservative/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Conservative">Conservative</a> minority government which would be almost certain to fall in recriminations within six months, in which time it would have made little real progress in tackling the economic crisis, and none at all in electoral reform, or a true Lib Dem Con coalition, was one that simply could not be made in any other way from the way it has been made.</p>
<p>The solution is not perfect. <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/david-cameron/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with David Cameron">David Cameron</a> could have divested himself of the lacklustre George Osborne. If having <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/vince-cable/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Vince Cable">Vince Cable</a> as chancellor was too much to swallow (though it would have pleased the nation, and the markets), Ken Clarke was waiting in the wings, the only member of Cameron&#8217;s team who had ever served in a senior role in a government. There could have been (and should have) a commitment to a referendum on true electoral reform, not merely the disproportional Alternative Vote (AV) system. If the Conservatives believe that the public has no appetite for electoral reform, then they should have agreed to a referendum on the real issue. If they were willing to accept a grudging compromise and no more, they should have offered a simple bill on AV as <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> did, and left it at that. The nation is to be put to the trouble and expense of a referendum without being allowed to vote on the real topic of discussion.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, the prospect of an autumn <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/election/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with election">election</a> has receded to the horizon. Cameron&#8217;s lightweight team will be strongly bolstered by 5 Lib Dem cabinet ministers, and a total of 20 Lib Dems across his ministries. </p>
<p>Lib Dem fortunes at the next <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/election/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with election">election</a> will almost certainly suffer, and there will equally certainly be a spate of recriminations and even member-resignations. And this is the true mark of <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/nick-clegg/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Nick Clegg">Nick Clegg</a>&#8217;s <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/leadership/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with leadership">leadership</a>: at personal cost, he has put the interests of the nation first.<br />
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		<title>Voter intention 36:36:24</title>
		<link>http://martinturner.org.uk/2010/04/29/voter-intention-363624/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Martin Turner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Following tonight's final debate, ComRes have polled for voter intention, and the result is Lib Dems 36%, Conservatives 36%, Labour 24%. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following tonight&#8217;s final debate, ComRes have polled for voter intention, and the result is Lib Dems 36%, Conservatives 36%, <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> 24%. This is an important result, because it shows the aggregate effect of all the debates and everything else that has happened. Conservatives were quick to jump on two early polls which suggested Cameron had won the debate, but the key issue is not &#8220;who won tonight&#8217;s debate&#8221; but &#8220;who won the series as a whole&#8221;. The answer is quite clearly that Lib-Dems have shot up by a figure greater than 15%, and a totally different outcome is now expected from the Cameron-win-or-hung-parliament of two weeks and one day ago.</p>
<p><a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/david-cameron/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with David Cameron">David Cameron</a> has been pedalling the line that a hung parliament would be an unfair and undesirable result given that the Tories deserve to win. But, really, he has not got over the fact that, six months ago, he was nine points ahead in the polls. He is probably (though with certain rather obvious reservations) right that it would have been unfair for him to be neck and neck with <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> in terms of numbers of seats with a nine point lead &#8212; always providing that we accept that someone who scores a third of the vote should deserve to get more than half the seats. But his idea that it is unfair for him to not win the <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/election/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with election">election</a> when he doesn&#8217;t even poll the highest number of votes is patently absurd.</p>
<p>Cameron needs to have a good long look at himself. He paints himself as a liberal, progressive, &#8216;changed <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/conservative/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Conservative">Conservative</a>&#8217;. But, in reality, his entire approach to the <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/election/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with election">election</a> is that <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> has been in for 13 years and it&#8217;s now &#8216;his turn&#8217;.</p>
<p>It is not his turn. He has failed to persuade the majority of voters that he is Prime Ministerial material. </p>
<p>On tonight&#8217;s poll, based on the BBC&#8217;s uniform swing seat calculator, Tories would get 285 seats, <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> 182, and Lib Dems 157. Others would get 26. Cameron would not only be far short of the seats he needs to win, but would also be far short of the seats he needs to form a government with <strong>all</strong> of the &#8216;others&#8217; as coalition partners, enabling him to side-step the question of a coalition with the Lib Dems and the requirement for proportional representation.</p>
<p>In any case, the Lib Dems are not offering anyone a coalition. As <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/nick-clegg/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Nick Clegg">Nick Clegg</a> has repeatedly pointed out, the electorate must decide who they want to run the country. Cameron does not seem to get this: his notion that he has some implicit right to be the next prime minister based on the same poll as his (now) main competitor is laughable. His notion that this status quo ought to continue until some serendipitous roll of the dice gives him that role is worse than laughable.</p>
<p>That 36:36:24 yields a result of 157:285:182 is surely the most compelling demonstration that our electoral system does not properly reflect the will of the people. Britain is demanding change — and real, not cosmetic, change.<br />
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		<title>Neck and Neck nationally</title>
		<link>http://martinturner.org.uk/2010/04/17/neck-and-neck-nationally/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 20:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Martin Turner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two polls are now putting the Lib Dems ahead of Conservative and Labour. No poll has put Lib Dems ahead since 1985, and all the polls are now agreeing that the gap between Lib Dems and the others is lower than the sampling error -- in other words -- we are truly neck and neck, and everything is to play for. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/2610">Two polls</a> are now putting the Lib Dems ahead of <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/conservative/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Conservative">Conservative</a> and <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a>. No poll has put Lib Dems ahead since 1985, and all the polls are now agreeing that the gap between Lib Dems and the others is lower than the sampling error &#8212; in other words &#8212; we are truly neck and neck, and everything is to play for. </p>
<p>A Tory blogger is already claiming that this is all rubbish and he hasn&#8217;t noticed any of this on the doors. I don&#8217;t know what doors he&#8217;s been knocking on, but out on the streets of Shipston, Alcester, Tanworth and Claverdon, the story is totally different. People have been coming up to me for weeks telling me that they will vote for me for the first time because they are not satisfied with the Tory Central Office candidate here in <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/stratford/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Stratford">Stratford</a>. As of yesterday, people are walking up to me and saying &#8220;I have been a Tory voter all my life and I am voting for you for the first time because you have the finest leader in the land.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is changing. And it is likely to change more. Lab/Con spin doctors are saying that the Clegg will not have it his own way next time. My observation is this: in competitive situations, although the scores <em>can</em> reverse, they usually don&#8217;t. We all remember the great reversals of fortune because they make compelling stories. But, usually, the one who starts out in front increases their lead. I&#8217;ve seen this over and over again in competitive sports, and the psychology of sports is very similar to that of debate. Yes, anything can happen. But the most likely thing is that Clegg will solidify his dominance in the debates. Based on this week&#8217;s polls &#8212; and, again, anything can happen &#8212; this will be reflected in polls leads, and on <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/election/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with election">election</a> day.<br />
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		<title>Decisive victory for Clegg</title>
		<link>http://martinturner.org.uk/2010/04/15/decisive-victory-for-clegg/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Martin Turner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Following the first leaders' debate on ITV tonight, Nick Clegg took 46% in the ComRes poll (Clegg 46, Cameron 26, Brown 20) — as much as Brown and Cameron put together. In the YouGov poll he took 51 points against Cameron 29 and Brown 19.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following the first leaders&#8217; debate on ITV tonight, <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/nick-clegg/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Nick Clegg">Nick Clegg</a> took 46% in the ComRes poll (Clegg 46, Cameron 26, Brown 20) — as much as Brown and Cameron put together. In the YouGov poll he took 51 points against Cameron 29 and Brown 19. There were, of course, a number of unscientific polls conducted on newspaper websites, but they do nothing more than reflect their readers&#8217; opinions. The real, scientific, polls are unequivocal.</p>
<p>If this were replicated in an <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/election/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with election">election</a> (of course, it won&#8217;t be, but the illustration is still valid), it would result, <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8609989.stm">according to the BBC website&#8217;s calculator</a>, in 530 seats for the Liberal Democrats in the <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/house-of-commons/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with House of Commons">House of Commons</a> — a majority of 410 seats: a landslide beyond all conception and all precedent.</p>
<p>Liberal Democrats were, of course, looking for Clegg to make up ground tonight. Brown is generally considered to be undervalued and Cameron overvalued, a view not supported by tonight&#8217;s public response. Conventional wisdom suggested that Clegg needed to be up with the others, and it would do Lib Dems good because of the exposure. But the scale of the <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/nick-clegg/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Nick Clegg">Nick Clegg</a> result was absolutely devastating: an absolute majority of votes in one poll, an equal vote with the other two parties combined in the other.</p>
<p>Where did the debate landslide victory come from?</p>
<p>There were three factors, I think.</p>
<p>First, <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/nick-clegg/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Nick Clegg">Nick Clegg</a> made a point of answering the question. I followed the BBC comments page while watching the debate, and &#8212; leaving aside the obviously partisan comments &#8212; this was commented on again and again. He not only answered the question, but made a point of looking at and referring to the questioner to see if they thought he was answering the questions. Brown famously jibed at Cameron &#8216;this is answer time, not question time&#8217;, and, certainly, Cameron&#8217;s unwillingness to give an actual answer told against him. But Brown&#8217;s own attempts fell flat as well. My feeling is that Brown really was trying to answer the questions from time to time, but he was held up by his own opaque language: beginning a sentence with &#8220;Net inward immigration…&#8221; three times does not make for a good connection with viewers.</p>
<p>Second, the Lib Dem manifesto published this week was a clear winner in terms of the power it gave to Clegg over the other two. The manifesto sets out in detail exactly what the Lib Dems would spend and what they would save. Neither <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> nor the Tories — as Clegg pointed out — included figures in their manifestos. Cameron tried to have a bit of a go about the figures, but it is never easy to argue with a man on his own turf: Clegg knew his manifesto and his figures much better than Cameron did, and Brown made no attempt to overturn the Lib Dem figures at all.</p>
<p>Third, <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/nick-clegg/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Nick Clegg">Nick Clegg</a> positioned his two opponents very clearly in his own address as the &#8216;same old same old parties&#8217;. The bickering between Brown and Cameron which followed underlined that again and again. Clegg certainly benefited from the game that Brown and Cameron tried to play. They were almost deferential in their treatment of him, and when Cameron did attempt to question Clegg, it fell rather flat, especially on immigration, which should have been his strongest suit. Brown again and again tried to say that he and Clegg were agreeing. Unfortunately for him, Clegg refused to play along. This was all especially important because, at Prime Minister&#8217;s Question Time, the bulk of Tory/<a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> jeers are often enough to drown out Clegg&#8217;s comments. In a studio, with a studio audience and clear rules, this extraneous factor was taken away.</p>
<p>What difference will all this make? That remains to be seen — over the next few days, as the pundits weave their theories, and as the spin-doctors from left and right attempt to demonstrate (as William Hague is already attempting) that, despite all the opinion polls, their candidate won after all.</p>
<p>There may be more polls tomorrow, and they may give a different result. But, for now, based on this debate only, and without any particular connection with other realities, the result is a clearer victory for <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/nick-clegg/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Nick Clegg">Nick Clegg</a> than any <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/liberal-democrat/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Liberal Democrat">Liberal Democrat</a> could have hoped for.<br />
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		<title>BBC praise for plans</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Martin Turner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA["The Liberal Democrats may be only the third largest party at Westminster - but when it comes to tax plans, they punch above their weight. Their manifesto has a lot more numbers than either of the other parties." — Stephanie Flanders, BBC economics editor]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/stephanieflanders/">Stephanie Flanders</a>, BBC economics editor had this to say about the Lib Dem manifesto: &#8220;The Liberal Democrats may be only the third largest party at <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/focus-on-the-mother-of-parliaments/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Westminster">Westminster</a> &#8211; but when it comes to tax plans, they punch above their weight. Their manifesto has a lot more numbers than either of the other parties. That deserves some credit. Their tax proposals are also by far the most ambitious we&#8217;ve seen this week. Whether they would do what the party says they would do is another matter.&#8221;</p>
<p>On <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> and the Tories, she was less kind: &#8220;The <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> and <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/conservative/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Conservative">Conservative</a> manifestos are very different. <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a>&#8217;s was big on words &#8211; and detailed promises and commitments which we had heard before. It put government at the centre. The <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/conservative/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Conservative">Conservative</a> version is longer, but lighter. About a third of its 118 pages actually contains written text &#8211; the rest is made up of pictures, fun facts, and (yes) blank pages to give readers a rest. Their focus is on the private sector &#8211; and on individuals.</p>
<p>&#8220;But the two documents have one important thing in common: neither of them makes any further contribution to public understanding on how Britain&#8217;s £167bn budget deficit is going to be cut. And they both leave plenty out.&#8221;</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.libdems.org.uk/our_manifesto.aspx">Lib Dem manifesto</a> is about four key policies — </p>
<p>• Fair taxes that put money back in your pocket.<br />
• A fair chance for every child.<br />
• A fair future, creating jobs by making Britain greener.<br />
• A fair deal for you from politicians.</p>
<p>In the words of <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/nick-clegg/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Nick Clegg">Nick Clegg</a>, leader of the Liberal Democrats: &#8220;We’ve had 65 years of <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> and the Conservatives: the same parties taking turns and making the same mistakes, letting you down. It is time for something different. It is time for something better.&#8221;</p>
<p>The <a href="http://network.libdems.org.uk/manifesto2010/libdem_manifesto_2010.pdf">manifesto itself</a> is a pretty hefty document — strengthened, as Stephanie Flanders points out, by pages and pages of detailed costings. This is not pie in the sky, these are workable plans which — if the situation did transpire that we were in government with members of other parties willing to work with us — would form the blueprint for economic recovery. Sustainable economic recovery that is, because, despite the promises of the last four chancellors (Lawson, Clarke, Brown, Darling) the <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a>/<a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/conservative/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Conservative">Conservative</a> or <a href="http://www.labservative.com/">Labservative</a> economics has done nothing but cycle us through boom and bust.</p>
<p>If the full document is more than you want to read right now, here are the key points in a bit more detail:<br />
<strong>fair taxes </strong><br />
that put money back in your pocket<br />
• The first £10,000 you earn tax-free: a tax cut of £700 for most people<br />
• 3.6 million low earners and pensioners freed from income tax completely<br />
• Paid for in full by closing loopholes that unfairly benefit the wealthy and polluters</p>
<p><strong>a fair chance </strong><br />
for every child<br />
• Ensure children get the individual attention they need by cutting class sizes<br />
• Made possible by investing £2.5 billion in schools targeted to help struggling pupils<br />
• Give schools the <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/freedom/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with freedom">freedom</a> to make the right choices for their pupils</p>
<p><strong>a fair future</strong><br />
creating jobs by making Britain greener<br />
• Break up the banks and get them lending again to protect real businesses<br />
• Honesty about the tough choices needed to cut the deficit • Green growth and jobs that last by investing in infrastructure</p>
<p><strong>a fair deal </strong><br />
by cleaning up politics<br />
• Put <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/trust/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with trust">trust</a> back into politics by giving you the right to sack corrupt MPs<br />
• Restore and protect hard-won British civil liberties with a <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/freedom/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with freedom">Freedom</a> Bill<br />
• Overhaul <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/focus-on-the-mother-of-parliaments/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Westminster">Westminster</a> completely: fair votes, an elected House of Lords, all politicians to pay full British taxes<br />
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		<title>More questions than answers</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Martin Turner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The consultation on the prospective Stratford Parkway Railway Station leaves more questions than it gives answers. What will be the impact on the existing station? What will be the journey times to London and to Birmingham? Have the consequences for tourism been properly explored, since tourists will not be able to walk from the new station?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the great-grandson of a railwayman, and the grandson of a railway missionary, I love trains, railways, railway stations and rail travel. My natural inclination is to back them. So I&#8217;m in a slightly funny position with the consultation on <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/stratford/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Stratford">Stratford</a>&#8217;s prospective Parkway Station. The public consultation is very short — 4 March to 19 March — and the consultation presentation leaves many more questions than it answers. The consultation documents are in the form of <a href="http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/Web/corporate/pages.nsf/Links/5C0EA8A150E1EA9A802576CE0039336E/$file/Planning+App+Consultation+Poster.pdf">posters</a>, and the consultation <a href="http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/Web/corporate/pages.nsf/Links/5C0EA8A150E1EA9A802576CE0039336E">website</a> gives virtually no more information.</p>
<p>The questions I would expect to be answered in a consultation of this kind are as follows:</p>
<li>What routes are being served, and what are the train operator plans for the future of these routes, if the station is built?</li>
<li>What is the capacity of the route to take on more passengers?</li>
<li>What evidence is there that opening a new station will increase passenger numbers?</li>
<li>If the new station will not increase passenger numbers, what is the predicted impact on existing stations?</li>
<p>In the case of <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/stratford/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Stratford">Stratford</a>-upon-Avon, I have some other, very specific questions. <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/stratford/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Stratford">Stratford</a> is (or was, last time I checked) Britain&#8217;s third most popular tourist destination. It will play a leading role in the Cultural Olympiad as part of the 2012 Olympics. It is home to the world&#8217;s most famous theatre, and the world&#8217;s most famous theatre company, and also to the Shakespeare birthplace <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/trust/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with trust">trust</a>. Parkway stations, such as Warwick Parkway, are typically constructed on out-of-town sites to give easy parking for local people to commute to perhaps London or Birmingham. They provide ample parking, hence the name Parkway and relatively easy access from motorways. It&#8217;s true there are people who have to go from <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/stratford/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Stratford">Stratford</a> to Birmingham or London, though my local station of Honeybourne is a deal more convenient, faster and more cost effective for trips to London, and Warwick Parkway is available on the other side of <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/stratford/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Stratford">Stratford</a>. But most of the potential growth in rail use for <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/stratford/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Stratford">Stratford</a> is inward, not outward: tourism is destined to play an even larger part in the town&#8217;s future, with the reopening of the Royal Shakespeare Theatre next year.</p>
<p>Therefore, I would want to know:</p>
<li>What testing has been done of likely tourist uptake of the new station?</li>
<li>Given that tourists can walk from the existing station into the town, what is the likely response to having to walk to a bus, and then take the bus into town, only to have to take it out later in order to return?</li>
<li>What negotiations have taken place with train operators to ensure good links with fast services? Even from Warwick, it is quicker to drive to Coventry to take a train to London than to take the Chiltern line from Warwick Parkway</li>
<p>I am not saying that these questions are unanswerable. But, despite laudable sections on environmental and flooding impact, the consultation posters significantly fail to answer the basic rail-industry questions, and, equally, the more specific <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/stratford/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Stratford">Stratford</a>-facing questions.</p>
<p>I would very much like to be able to support the creation of a new station. However, on the evidence presented to me, I don&#8217;t believe I can. Right now &#8212; and I would be only too happy to be proved wrong &#8212; this seems to be yet another grandiose public construction scheme of the type that is plaguing this area, whether <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a>-led (&#8220;Eco&#8221;-towns) or <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/conservative/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Conservative">Conservative</a> (Bancroft and Bridge).</p>
<p>If they know why they are doing this, please would they tell us? Otherwise, it is time to learn that just because we can build something, it does not mean that we should.<br />
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		<dc:creator>Martin Turner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The government has won its vote to have a referendum on a fairer voting system. But the system they have chosen is poor, and delaying so late means that the proposals will probably never become law.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8505255.stm">In tonight&#8217;s vote</a> the Commons opted for a national referendum on the Alternative Vote as a replacement for our current first past the post system. The referendum would cost an estimated £80m, but, because the Government has delayed so long (almost 13 years, in fact), it is unlikely that the bill will be passed before the General <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/election/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with election">Election</a>, and therefore even less likely that any referendum will take place.</p>
<p>More seriously, Alternative Vote is not a true proportional system &#8212; up to 49 per cent of the votes would still be discarded, meaning that a government can still be elected with an absolute majority on around 30 per cent of the total national vote.</p>
<p>This paragraph is going to be short and mercifully simple. But if you lack the <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/liberal-democrat/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Liberal Democrat">Liberal Democrat</a> passion for discussing complex voting systems, please feel free to skip to the next paragraph.</p>
<p>So: in first past the post, you put down one X on the ballot paper, and, late that night, the candidate with the most Xs wins. The candidate may have gained not much more than 1/3rd of the total vote, and, often, only three quarters of the voters will have voted. As <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/trust/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with trust">trust</a> in politics declines, the numbers voting shrinks, and so our elected leaders have less and less of a mandate. The alternative vote system gives you a 1-2-3 etc choice of your favourite, second favourite, and so on. When the votes are counted, the least successful candidate is eliminated, and their second choices are distributed among the remaining candidates. This carries on, until one candidate has more than 50 per cent of the vote, and they are the winner. All the remaining votes are discarded. Although this is marginally more successful at giving people an MP they are happy with, it does not mean at all that the government is elected based on the votes cast across Britain. There&#8217;s a variation, AV plus, which I won&#8217;t go into, which is a much more proportional system. Truly proportional voting comes with the Single Transferable Vote, which is hideous to work out on paper, but which computers can do as easily as AV, AV plus, or even first past the post. And, these days, even the government has computers.</p>
<p>So where does that leave us? The one thing that the Alternative Vote <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> has pushed for tonight will give us is a system where it is much harder for a <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/conservative/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Conservative">Conservative</a> government ever to be elected. <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/gordon-brown/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Gordon Brown">Gordon Brown</a> may be counting on getting the support of Lib-Dems because of his fig-leaf gesture towards a proportional system, but, in truth, this is tinkering with the electoral system in order to change the result of future elections. </p>
<p>If <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> had done this, as it originally promised, when it first came to power, then we might have avoided much of the collapse of <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/trust/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with trust">trust</a> in politicians of the last ten years. Even Alternative Vote reduces the number of &#8216;safe&#8217; seats which play no real role in an <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/election/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with election">election</a>. And it is in the safe seats that we have seen the greatest abuse of <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/expenses/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with expenses">expenses</a>. But this death-bed conversion smacks of nothing more than desperation. And it is a desperation which will surely further undermine the residual <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/confidence/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with confidence">confidence</a> the electorate has in government. </p>
<p>Quite simply, it is the wrong answer, too late.<br />
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		<title>Don&#8217;t break up the BBC</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Martin Turner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Tory-backed Policy Exchange think-tank has today called for the BBC to be dismantled, with BBC Worldwide privatised, the BBC Trust scrapped, and sport and popular entertainment dumped to create opportunities for commercial channels, according to a preview to the report &#8220;Changing the Channel&#8221; covered by the BBC website and the Guardian. It&#8217;s difficult to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tory-backed <a href="http://www.policyexchange.org.uk/">Policy Exchange</a> think-tank has today called for the <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8458271.stm">BBC to be dismantled</a>, with BBC Worldwide privatised, the BBC <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/trust/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with trust">Trust</a> scrapped, and sport and popular entertainment dumped to create opportunities for commercial channels, according to a preview to the report &#8220;Changing the Channel&#8221; covered by the BBC website and <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/jan/14/privatise-channel-4-policy-exchange">the Guardian</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s difficult to pin down exactly what the Policy Exchange is saying because, although they have given away copies to the BBC and to the Guardian, they have yet to publish their own report on their own website.</p>
<p>But, based on what we know now, this is the old right-wing (Policy Exchange actually calls itself &#8216;centre-right&#8217;, but you don&#8217;t need to read very far before you realise that &#8216;centre&#8217; is a euphemism) animosity to the BBC. While the <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> party has long decried the &#8216;Tory <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/press/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with press">Press</a>&#8217;, Conservatives get equally frustrated with the &#8216;liberal BBC&#8217;. Of course, at the moment they are able to build on popular opposition to large salaries, such as the one Jonathan Ross is giving up, but the truth is, they want to take away from the BBC many of the things we most love about it.</p>
<p>Following the Policy Exchange&#8217;s prescription, we would lose sport and popular entertainment. So, no more Eastenders, no more Doctor Who, no more football, athletics, Wimbledon, the Olympics, and definitely no return for the cricket. Based on current schedules, the new look BBC might be something like this on a Saturday evening:</p>
<p>7pm &#8211; nothing &#8211; replaces &#8216;So you think you can dance&#8217;<br />
7.45 &#8211; National Lottery draw, probably extended edition<br />
9pm &#8211; nothing &#8211; replaces &#8220;Casualty&#8221;<br />
10pm &#8211; nothing &#8211; replaces &#8220;Live at the Apollo&#8221;<br />
10.45pm &#8211; News &#8211; extended edition<br />
11.00 pm &#8211; nothing &#8211; replaces football</p>
<p>Of course, they wouldn&#8217;t really leave all those nothings in. But what would they fill them up with? Not re-runs of old classics, as that would be popular entertainment. Certainly not cutting edge wildlife shows &#8212; they cost as much as popular entertainment to make. Ditto Horizon, Panorama, Shakespeare productions, Grand Opera, Jane Austen. Policy Exchange&#8217;s prescription would be about taking the money away from the BBC which currently goes on those shows.</p>
<p>There is, of course, a channel which already does what the BBC would be like if Policy Exchange had its way: it&#8217;s BBC News 24. The same news, over and over again, all day and night long. It doesn&#8217;t cost much to make. But, equally, it doesn&#8217;t have many people watching it for long.</p>
<p>If you take away the things that people like on the BBC, you will not assuage their opposition (if there is any) to the license fee. You will increase it. They will be paying the same amount of money (Policy Exchange wants to beef up Channel 4), but getting nothing they like.</p>
<p>How long before the BBC is abolished?</p>
<p>On that basis, not long at all.</p>
<p>But have a care. Policy Exchange is publishing a new report every three or four days. They are setting out the programme for a Tory government &#8212; the things that <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/david-cameron/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with David Cameron">David Cameron</a> dare not put in his manifesto. Britain after Cameron might well be a place with marginally less debt, if he can somehow get his sums right. But it will be a joyless, grey place, where only sure-fire hits are played on commercial TV (in other words, US shows six months after they were shown on Sky), and where home-grown television has as much interest and creative flair as a 1970s Czechoslovakian cartoon.</p>

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		<title>Labour coup-plot does not help anyone</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Martin Turner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Less than six months from the latest possible date for a general election, ex-ministers Patricia Hewitt and Geoff Hoon have called for a leadership contest in the Labour party. Hewitt, who is stepping down as an MP, said &#8220;This is not an attempted coup&#8221;, which tidily gets the word &#8216;coup&#8217; into popular discussion without making [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Less than six months from the latest possible date for a general <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/election/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with election">election</a>, ex-ministers Patricia Hewitt and Geoff Hoon have called for a <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8443769.stm">leadership contest in the Labour party</a>. Hewitt, who is stepping down as an MP, said &#8220;This is not an attempted coup&#8221;, which tidily gets the word &#8216;coup&#8217; into popular discussion without making it her words.</p>
<p>What are we to make of this?</p>
<p>The first duty of government &#8212; and of opposition &#8212; is to serve the nation. Whether or not we like <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/gordon-brown/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Gordon Brown">Gordon Brown</a>, the <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> Party already had one chance to vote him in, or someone else. In the event, no-one else came forward, and Brown won by default. But it was a <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/leadership/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with leadership">leadership</a> contest, and they got the leader they collectively chose. With the economy in a parlous state, parliament&#8217;s own reputation in substantial trouble, and a <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/leadership/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with leadership">leadership</a> contest of a much more serious nature at the General <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/election/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with election">Election</a> looming, the nation is in no way served by panic in its ruling party. </p>
<p>If <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/gordon-brown/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Gordon Brown">Gordon Brown</a> had been caught with his fingers in the till, or was putting forward some dramatic U-turn which required a new mandate from his party, then a <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/leadership/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with leadership">leadership</a> contest might have been the right thing to do. But a contest to (allegedly) settle doubt and get things &#8220;sorted out once and for all&#8221;, will do no such thing. John Major tried to bolster his flagging <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/leadership/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with leadership">leadership</a> two years before an <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/election/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with election">election</a>, and it did nothing to establish his credibility. In fact, it only made him look weaker. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that the majority of <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> MPs will have the sense to ignore it &#8212; if only out of self-interest. More chaos in Downing Street will simply rob them of votes they could still have counted on.</p>
<p>We need to leave this storm in a tea-cup behind, and get back to the proper business of politics. The pre-<a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/election/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with election">election</a> debate has started. It is too late to change the debaters.<br />
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		<title>The phoney war begins</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Martin Turner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone knows that the General Election is this year. So, like clockwork, on the year&#8217;s first working day, the spin machines of both Labour and the Conservatives trundle into action, and then into overdrive and counter-spin, back-spin, side-spin and top-spin. How long before they go into tail-spin? You can now watch both in glorious web-colour [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone knows that the General <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/election/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with election">Election</a> is this year. So, like clockwork, on the year&#8217;s first working day, the spin machines of both <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/labour/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Labour">Labour</a> and the Conservatives trundle into action, and then into overdrive and counter-spin, back-spin, side-spin and top-spin.</p>
<p>How long before they go into tail-spin?</p>
<p>You can now watch both in glorious web-colour in <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8440069.stm">this BBC article</a>.</p>
<p>The big problem with both Alastair Darling &#8212; stuttering and slipping his way through his speech like a reveller who has walked out onto the ice &#8212; and <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/david-cameron/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with David Cameron">David Cameron</a> &#8212; sauntering up to the microphone, leaning on the podium, like a Blairette imitating his idol &#8212; is that both were strong on attacking the credibility of the other, but bring no credibility of their own. Darling, of course, has not been a disastrous Chancellor, just an unlucky one. The world economic crisis would have happened whatever he did. It was just his bad luck that it happened on his watch. However, like Napoleon&#8217;s generals, we, the public, prefer lucky chancellors. <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/david-cameron/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with David Cameron">David Cameron</a> is not a bad man. He&#8217;s had some personal tragedy to contend with, and it probably really has changed him as a person. But he has no credentials for running the economy, and neither has his sidekick George Osborne.</p>
<p>It is much easier to shred the credibility of your opponent than to put up something credible. But credibility, or, more importantly, trustworthiness, is what politicians have in shortest supply at this time. We do not really care whether George Osborne&#8217;s budget is full of holes, or whether <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/david-cameron/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with David Cameron">David Cameron</a> really saw eleven mistakes in eleven seconds (seems a bit unlikely, though) in Alastair Darling&#8217;s analysis. What we really care about is whether or not we can really <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/trust/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with trust">trust</a> either of them.</p>
<p>On today&#8217;s showing, we cannot. <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/vince-cable/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Vince Cable">Vince Cable</a>, now the most trusted man in British politics, and probably the one politician people really <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/trust/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with trust">trust</a> with the economy, wisely stayed silent today. He does not need to enter the phoney war yet. After a decade of telling us that Punch and Judy politics is over, Darling and Cameron clashed in exactly that fashion. There will be other, more serious battles, but keeping out of that particular clash of sausage and hammer says a lot more about <a href="http://martinturner.org.uk/tag/vince-cable/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Vince Cable">Vince Cable</a> than either Darling or Cameron were able to say about themselves.<br />
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